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For burners, pyrolysis is used to burn biomass (usually wood) in a very efficient way. The type of burner described in this article is the cleanest type of burning. Bamboo is a very efficient fuel. For this design, two iron cans and very simple devices are used to help you make a burner anywhere. Sharp corners and fire are used for this project. There is a chance of injury, so you should do everything at home under adult supervision.

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If anyone would be interested, wrote a review of 2 Chinese burners: BRS-12a and BRS-8 (multi-fuel)
www.drive2.ru/b/2416378/
www.drive2.ru/b/2416857/

We’ve been using msr for about 5 years. They didn’t clean Nirazu, they didn’t clog anything, we refuel with the usual 92nd. Last year, the pump stem broke - he gave it to the turners, they promise to turn an analogue out of metal for 1000 rubles. The rest of the tiles are great!

What model? them there seems to be somewhat multi-fuel in msr.

The one on the first photo on your list.

Thank you, I’ll add good burners to my “statistics”. Some spare parts for msr are sold (www.backpacking-united.co ... ex-expedition-service-kit), this is also a plus. Prices have now jumped on them, but amazon is 1.5 times cheaper than ours (www.amazon.com/MSR-XGK-Ex...er>

A man came up to me, it’s not clear where he came from, and offered a gas stove as in the picture above (blue) and in addition to 10 cans of gas per 1000 r. the whole set, I think in the price did not lose. Not once did the tile help out on hikes and outings on nature.

I will supplement it. There is nothing worse than a huge five-liter bottle. This is eternal hemorrhoids - it’s depressing to wait until it boils (and it will not give out good pressure in life) and look for where to refuel with gas (now even quietly they do not refuel everywhere, they are afraid of checks). But, of course, it seems like cheap. But it is strange to talk about such advantages, having money for a car and hobbies associated with trips. Vodka, as a rule, drinks more during the trip than the cost of gas in small bottles for the season.

Interesting ... I did not think so many problems with a large tank. Thought dimensions / weight is the only drawback.

I just went through it :) I haven’t seen a single person who returned from a compact burner to a large cylinder.

I returned to the big tank.
Compact in my hands caught fire once. About pressure - nonsense, the pressure in the cylinder is much more than necessary, pick the right gearbox.

But I have two regular places in the trailer for two cylinders, a gas, a refrigerator, heating, a gas stove work, so for the camping stove I don’t make sense to put sprays on the cans. A camping tile is used when the trailer is hot, or there are a lot of people.

Trailer is a completely different topic and it is hardly correct to compare them. Surely it is heated. And try to start this balloon left on the street, if there were frosts at night - a dull activity, I tell you. About the pressure. I tried a lot of gearboxes, here are 10 pieces, including imported, adjustable Italian ones. None compare to a compact burner. Burners for a regular car (not a camper) are the best that was invented and no one will dissuade me of this.

I read an interesting review!

Actually, I can add a little fresh impressions of using Pinguin Aura (mentioned in the review), it seemed even more convenient than the eminent Covea in speed and other things, everything is the same, only 2 times cheaper.

How does a booster behave? Is it hard to clean it after gasoline? I want to supplement everything with multi-fuel arsenal, but I look more towards purely gasoline-kerosene MSR.

Great burner. It depends on what you mean by cleaning, if you don’t pour any rubbish into it, but fill it with high-quality galoshes, then you need to clean it once a year, otherwise once every half a year. Yes, and cleaning is trifling. The key and the needle in the kit for 10 minutes and you're done. It works noisily, but boils faster than gas + in the cold it works like a Kalashnikov assault rifle!)

I use carpet as in the second photo. No complaints. I feed her with "dichlorvos", I didn’t connect a large tank. Instead of a windshield, a suitcase)) For some reason, the burner was always afraid to turn over))

Chinese burners sludge and bottom. BRS fell apart on 3rd cooking, well on the track, not in the mountains. Money down the drain. I use Kovea, the scout burner and the alpine pot analogue of the jetboy - no complaints. There is also a gas lamp, markill peak illuminator, which is also available as a carpet. It turns out I'm a fan of the Koreans :)

Yes, I look here a lot of positive reviews about Kovea) Well. Well done, they mean, just make quality products). Two Chinese BRS so far have been driving in test mode, I think to test in the "combat" mode for the June holidays, let's see how much is enough). But there is metal there, less than, for example, in the Ukrainian Motor Sich, maybe not everything is so good with strength, the test will show)

I use gas with collet cylinders myself, I buy cans at 60 or 70 rubles at once in winter (up to 10 standards work)
There is also an adapter for a 5 liter bottle, but it has not come in handy yet.
The tile itself cost something about 1t.r.
not going to change because works great.
The only thing if we go on winter trips to the north will probably have to buy gasoline, well, or use gas in the cabin, which will probably be even more convenient.

I don’t know about Dagestan. Externally - a copy of the bumblebee primus. But that one was still Soviet and the quality was good. Weak spot - pump rubber bands. After 15 years, dried up. But you can use it without them. The machine is very decent for winter trips / caravans. Of the minuses - gasoline and, accordingly, the smell. But there are no alternatives for subzero temperatures.
And in the warm time of the day there is a two-burner gas stove and a 5 liter cylinder.

There is a gas "Bumblebee", but ... +100 in favor of a gas burner with threaded cylinders (I have been using them for 10 years already).
These cylinders are refilled many times. Having an adapter, you can refuel in any village, but on trips, fishing, there was never a need for this.
1 450 g can is enough for several days, without any special restrictions. The second reserve, but it was rarely in demand.
Of the minuses: it does not work well in cold weather (closer to zero) and below zero it does not work at all, you must first warm the cylinder).
But the advantages of a gas burner are greater and they are more significant: the speed of cooking, the speed of cooking, the compactness and mobility, the availability of gas (if there is an adapter), the absence of soot and odor ... etc.
To prepare for gas faster - use a tin folding curtain-wind protection.

How many of these tiles, burners and stoves I sold at the time - just horror! Myself would choose a dastan. Opinion is subjective.

I have been using various tiles for a long time, and I have already come to a reasonable choice www.drive2.ru/l/3819558/

I read an interesting solution with a homemade heater!

In case of war, I have a tile, as in the second picture)))

I've been using this for ten years now
kovea.ru/expedition-stove.html
Together with his wife, they cooked on a half-liter balloon for almost a week, when they traveled along the Karelian rocks. I’ll say right away that sometimes breakfast-lunch-dinner was prepared, and sometimes only tea in the evening or milk porridge in the morning, at the end of the trip, for safety, they bought a small dichlorvos balloon (not needed). On average, one and a half liter pot and 1.2 liter kettle are boiled per day. To save gas, we used a windshield!
kovea.ru/folding-windscreen.html
this is a REALLY necessary thing on a trip! it closes from the wind, and the pot / kettle is heated not only from below, but also from the sides!
for two or three, both in time and in the volume of heated containers.

For road trips, we carry a universal one, by the way the price is 1tr + 500r bottle + gearbox, but very often we use small gas cans for 50 r, for the departure of 1-2 days there is no desire to carry a large balloon. The stove is comfortable for camping, stable.
For hiking - МSR reaktor (the boiling time of 1.5 liters of water is about 3-4 minutes in + air temperature, 1 bottle is enough for about 9 times), it is easy to carry, boil water, pour in sublimates. Just in case, we carry a very small burner, spare with a weight of 70g (Optimus vega is all folding), until it comes in handy.
Problem: gas freezes at a temperature of -15-20, gas cylinders in winter should be taken with you to the sleeping bag.

The gas stove as in the photo is the same, the other day I saw it in one of the chain stores for 830 rubles !, I take several cylinders of gas at once - the price is 45 rubles.
Look, you will find more pleasant prices.

Since I don’t go to a dalnyak, I drive, I prefer the option with a 5 liter gas bottle and portable gas stove. Such a cylinder replaces a bunch of firewood and spray cans. Once seasoned - and all summer.

For many years I have been using a china gas stove with a 5 liter cylinder and I took a manual burner connected to the same cylinder. And make a fire and deceive ...

I use an inexpensive Koveevskaya gas burner. a wonderful little thing, the piezo-plastic burned out when the grass caught fire, but otherwise it has been working and working for many years. flaws - slowly boils in the wind. in cold weather, the gas freezes, but the hose allows you to position the cylinder closer to the fire and approx. I don’t remember the price and model. An important moment - a friend broke it, easily found a spare part. offset.

I agree about spare parts, an important point. When choosing Chinese, one of the main criteria was the availability of spare parts (given that China often has a low quality, spare parts may be needed soon, so I chose a "branded" China). I look at kovea, too, many spare parts are sold - a hose, a pump, a set of rubber bands, a parsing tool (kovea.ru/catalog/aksessuary/).

But tell me on the tourist tile, as in the second photo on top of the collet gas cylinder, what is enough? (by time or by cooking)

I haven’t seen this burner live (. The manufacturer’s website shows a gas consumption of 160 g / h (kovea.ru/portable-range-tkr-9507-p.html). Below in the comment smf he wrote that his kovea burner has a real consumption with the stated, that is, and here we can expect that there will be real 160 g thus, it turns out that a collet cylinder of 220 grams (the standard volume for them) will last for 1 hour 20 minutes for cooking ... depending on how much a liter of water boils , until I found information, how to find - add.

But tell me on the tourist tile, as in the second photo on top of the collet gas cylinder, what is enough? (by time or by cooking)

We take a couple of cylinders for two days off. Usually we don’t finish the second. We boil tea, cook something 2-3 times.

But tell me on the tourist tile, as in the second photo on top of the collet gas cylinder, what is enough? (by time or by cooking)

It depends on the burner as well, I have completely china for 600 rubles from the market. And you need to use wind protection. In the year that has passed, one pawn, with three meals a day, took 2 collet tanks for a week, the third one just started. That year, a trip for two weeks for two (with lunch in a cafe) took almost 4 cylinders. The truth was not always cooked seriously, in the morning instant porridge, in the evening already something to chew to cook pasta and cereal.
Not ruinous. Easy to handle. Often, piezo ignition fails, but even without gas, the lighter is lying in a tiled case - just in case. Buying gas at home is not a problem, but they are not allowed to go on airplanes with him, to search on the spot is certain difficulties.
But if you compare with multi-fuel, then everything is more interesting. He had a friend of a cove, he bred her and a new one with adventures, and this year she generally refused to work in the morning at -15'C in our small mountains. Probably clogged, but regular cleaning did not help. In fairness, I must say that I did not rely on my gas at that temperature, if it is supposed to be used in the cold, then you should not spare money for a burner with a hose (it doesn’t matter which bottle), so that you can warm it under clothes (warm) after ignition, warm from the flame.
There are primuses and bumblebees in the storage tanks, and here's how in the picture below SICH pt-3. Fuss with them a lot, create pressure in the tank, warm up the nozzle, set fire to it the third time, or else it blazes much in vain. And in itself, the storage and transportation of gasoline is a very smelly event, always striving to leak. Plus only in availability and imaginary cheapness.

What to do if the gas does not want to burn

When cooking in the cold (below +5) there are problems with the gas pressure in the cylinder. Especially if the gas is not “winter”, and very pronounced if the cylinder is refilled. The problem is best solved at home, before leaving. Best of all - buying the right gas (Kovea, Jetboil - all with a significant proportion of isobutane, about 80%, or with a higher content of propane). Isobutane boils at -12 degrees, so up to -15 ..- 18 will work well. Propane boils at higher temperatures (i.e., it evaporates easier), it is mixed with butane so as not to break the balloon at room temperature. For winter mixtures, it is added a little more.

The second solution to the problem is the radiator for the cylinder. Simple, efficient, cheap, can be used for any gas. For an ordinary burner, it is very easy to do, for a jetboy - you need to think. I did - very satisfied.

My Jetboy Heat Exchanger

A copper plate is heated to a temperature of more than 100 degrees in half a minute. It is important that the tip of the plate touches the flame. Manufacturing process and search ideas:

If there is no heat exchanger, the gas does not burn, there is an oak tree behind the tent, then we use the old recipe: heat a glass of water, pour into a plate, put a cylinder with a working burner in water.

Look like that's it. Good luck and hot tea to everyone after an intense day!

1. Making an auxiliary device

This wooden block is not part of the stove, but serves for its manufacture. With it, it will be more convenient for you to drill holes and perform other operations. Insert the bar into the jar and draw a marker with two lines approximately at the level of the lid.

The distance between the lines should be approximately 7 - 8 millimeters.

Carefully cut out a rectangular recess. The top edge of the can should fit freely into this recess.

We arrange the wooden block in such a way that it provides reliable support for the can. The upper edge should be conveniently located in the recess we made.

2. Make holes in the bottom of the big can

First, draw a line along the bottom edge of the can. This line is needed to mark the points for the ventilation holes. In this case, a special dye is used for marking, but nothing will happen if you make it a simple marker.

We drill holes along the line we marked. Their number and size are of great importance for the operation of the stove. If there are too few of them, then there will be no traction; if there are too many, then the wood will burn very quickly. Therefore, it is better not to overdo it in order to be able to drill more holes after testing.

4. Drill the bottom of the middle jar

We make many holes in the bottom of the jar. Their size and quantity must be such that the firewood cannot fall out through them.

The result should be something like this sieve.

5. Assemble the design

Insert the middle jar into the large one.

As a result, our stove consists of two cans, firmly inserted one into the other. In this case, between their walls there remains a small gap necessary for the movement of air.

6. Cooking

The type of burner in different designs may vary slightly. In this case, the option with round holes in the side wall is used. You have already learned to do them well in previous operations.

The bottom of a small can is cut out with scissors for metal.

The edges can be leveled with a hammer and filed.

7. We carry out tests

The main part of the wood stove is two tin cans inserted one into the other. We load combustible material into the middle jar, which can be used as chips, branches, cones. It’s best to use dry knots on the trees, because the branches lying on the ground can be more or less raw.

We set fire and wait until it flares up. At first, this can cause some difficulties, but after several workouts it will turn out with one match.

When the confident intense burning began, we set the burner on top, which we made from a small can.

And already on top we set up a kettle or pan.

If you have watched the manufacturing process to the end and did not understand anything, or it seemed too complicated for you, then check out another option. The video below demonstrates how to make such a stove without any tools other than a regular knife. It turns out, maybe not so neatly, but no less practical.

And to all our readers who have already used similar stoves in the field, we suggest sharing their impressions and tips with us.

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